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Post by maurinsky on Dec 1, 2021 14:38:03 GMT -5
What a fucking disaster for Americans with uteruses.
Garbage president nominates a third of the court because garbage human is House Majority leader in an election that was definitely tampered with.
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 2, 2021 6:09:32 GMT -5
What a fucking disaster for Americans with uteruses. Garbage president nominates a third of the court because garbage human is House Majority leader in an election that was definitely tampered with. But what a blessing for unborn Americans. More of them will have the opportunity to be born and live their lives.
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Post by maurinsky on Dec 2, 2021 8:11:50 GMT -5
Many of whom also won't have the right to control their own bodies, so we're destroying the concept of America and freedom to assuage control freaks who want to make other Americans follow their religious beliefs.
Instead of making a nation where it's easy to have a child, where it's safe to have a child, we have this madness: can't do anything to stop kids being shot at school, have the highest maternal death rate in the developed world, the cost of having a baby here is one that many can't bear, the cost of and access to good quality child care is out of reach for most, health care is crazy expensive, we have a focused effort to destroy public education....
I know you will never understand because you believe you're on the side of righteousness, but even if you believe in God, He gave us free will and you and the crooked GOP and the illegitimate justices appointed by the popular vote losers do not have the right to take that away from anyone.
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Post by stellarfeller on Dec 2, 2021 9:18:19 GMT -5
What a fucking disaster for Americans with uteruses. Garbage president nominates a third of the court because garbage human is House Majority leader in an election that was definitely tampered with. But what a blessing for unborn Americans. More of them will have the opportunity to be born and live their lives. Yeah, lives with no assistance from the state that so desperately wanted them to be born in the first place. Admit it, the GOP doesn’t give a crap about kids once they’re born.
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Post by Peachy on Dec 2, 2021 10:42:12 GMT -5
What a fucking disaster for Americans with uteruses. Garbage president nominates a third of the court because garbage human is House Majority leader in an election that was definitely tampered with. But what a blessing for unborn Americans. More of them will have the opportunity to be born and live their lives. *snort* At the expense and burden of actual living women. Under his eye…
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Post by alicechalmers on Dec 2, 2021 17:48:11 GMT -5
We'll be helping the girls apply for passports the second they're old enough. I'll be damned if they'll ever be without options, but not everyone is so privileged.
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 3, 2021 5:51:44 GMT -5
But what a blessing for unborn Americans. More of them will have the opportunity to be born and live their lives. Yeah, lives with no assistance from the state that so desperately wanted them to be born in the first place. Admit it, the GOP doesn’t give a crap about kids once they’re born. Taking care of children is the responsibility of their parents, not the state. The responsibility of the state is to make sure fathers do their part in caring for their children. How to you know the GOP doesn't care about children? Can you read their minds?
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Post by coachgrrl on Dec 3, 2021 12:20:26 GMT -5
Yeah, lives with no assistance from the state that so desperately wanted them to be born in the first place. Admit it, the GOP doesn’t give a crap about kids once they’re born. Taking care of children is the responsibility of their parents, not the state. The responsibility of the state is to make sure fathers do their part in caring for their children. How to you know the GOP doesn't care about children? Can you read their minds? Unless the parent doesn’t or can’t care for children I know the GOP doesn’t care for children they say it and show it everyday by giving more breaks to big business and neglecting to vote for social programs that benefit vulnerable people such as children
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Post by emmjay on Dec 5, 2021 19:02:52 GMT -5
What a fucking disaster for Americans with uteruses. Garbage president nominates a third of the court because garbage human is House Majority leader in an election that was definitely tampered with. But what a blessing for unborn Americans. More of them will have the opportunity to be born and live their lives. Right, and who cares if women are forced to be incubators while the men who impregnate them can do what they like? Women’s lives don’t matter. This BS is a huge check mark in the “Reasons to Never Move Back to the US” column.
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 6, 2021 6:03:41 GMT -5
But what a blessing for unborn Americans. More of them will have the opportunity to be born and live their lives. Right, and who cares if women are forced to be incubators while the men who impregnate them can do what they like? Women’s lives don’t matter. This BS is a huge check mark in the “Reasons to Never Move Back to the US” column. Unless a woman has been raped she was not forced to become pregnant. Her pregnancy is the result of her own choice and she shouldn't be allowed to avoid the consequences of her choice by murdering her unborn child.
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Post by stellarfeller on Dec 6, 2021 7:22:26 GMT -5
Every time a man has sex there is the possibility that he could get someone pregnant. Any consequences for him? Shouldn’t men be the ones to make sure they are using a reliable form of birth control every time? That would really reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies 🤔
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Post by emmjay on Dec 6, 2021 8:09:11 GMT -5
Right, and who cares if women are forced to be incubators while the men who impregnate them can do what they like? Women’s lives don’t matter. This BS is a huge check mark in the “Reasons to Never Move Back to the US” column. Unless a woman has been raped she was not forced to become pregnant. Her pregnancy is the result of her own choice and she shouldn't be allowed to avoid the consequences of her choice by murdering her unborn child. Yes, I understand your position: women are incubators and have to bear the consequences while the men who impregnate them can do what they like. That’s what I said in the first place. Do you believe in exceptions for rape/incest?
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Post by emmjay on Dec 6, 2021 8:14:19 GMT -5
Every time a man has sex there is the possibility that he could get someone pregnant. Any consequences for him? Shouldn’t men be the ones to make sure they are using a reliable form of birth control every time? That would really reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies 🤔 I think all men should have to get vasectomies once they go through puberty, and they can have them reversed once they are responsible enough to be a father. Problem solved.
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 7, 2021 6:12:32 GMT -5
Every time a man has sex there is the possibility that he could get someone pregnant. Any consequences for him? Shouldn’t men be the ones to make sure they are using a reliable form of birth control every time? That would really reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies 🤔 I agree with you completely.
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 7, 2021 6:18:53 GMT -5
Every time a man has sex there is the possibility that he could get someone pregnant. Any consequences for him? Shouldn’t men be the ones to make sure they are using a reliable form of birth control every time? That would really reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies 🤔 I think all men should have to get vasectomies once they go through puberty, and they can have them reversed once they are responsible enough to be a father. Problem solved. If you allow abortions in the case of rape you are punishing an innocent child for a crime his father committed. That is completely unjust. One thing you need to consider is that God might allow a pregnancy to occur as a result of rape in order to bring about good through something that is evil. The creation of a new human being is a good thing. Psalm 127:3 says, "Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward."
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Post by emmjay on Dec 7, 2021 6:37:50 GMT -5
I think all men should have to get vasectomies once they go through puberty, and they can have them reversed once they are responsible enough to be a father. Problem solved. If you allow abortions in the case of rape you are punishing an innocent child for a crime his father committed. That is completely unjust. One thing you need to consider is that God might allow a pregnancy to occur as a result of rape in order to bring about good through something that is evil. The creation of a new human being is a good thing. Psalm 127:3 says, "Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward." Why do I need to consider that? I don’t believe in God, and if your God is cool with women being raped, forced to carry a pregnancy to term, and then told it is “a good thing”, I have no interest in signing up because that is cruel and disgusting. And how nonsensical of you to bring bible verses into it. We are talking about the law, not religion. One think you do actually need to consider is that not everyone follows your particular brand of religion, and your personal religious beliefs do not supersede other people’s beliefs. Or the law. Any thoughts on all men having vasectomies to cut down the vast majority of unwanted births?
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Post by justthinking on Dec 7, 2021 18:33:47 GMT -5
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 8, 2021 6:52:06 GMT -5
If you allow abortions in the case of rape you are punishing an innocent child for a crime his father committed. That is completely unjust. One thing you need to consider is that God might allow a pregnancy to occur as a result of rape in order to bring about good through something that is evil. The creation of a new human being is a good thing. Psalm 127:3 says, "Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward." Why do I need to consider that? I don’t believe in God, and if your God is cool with women being raped, forced to carry a pregnancy to term, and then told it is “a good thing”, I have no interest in signing up because that is cruel and disgusting. And how nonsensical of you to bring bible verses into it. We are talking about the law, not religion. One think you do actually need to consider is that not everyone follows your particular brand of religion, and your personal religious beliefs do not supersede other people’s beliefs. Or the law. Any thoughts on all men having vasectomies to cut down the vast majority of unwanted births? I am aware of these facts. I am also aware of the fact that God is in control of the world and everything in it. His commands supercede all of our laws and he will judge those who put human law ahead of them.
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Post by emmjay on Dec 8, 2021 12:11:33 GMT -5
Why do I need to consider that? I don’t believe in God, and if your God is cool with women being raped, forced to carry a pregnancy to term, and then told it is “a good thing”, I have no interest in signing up because that is cruel and disgusting. And how nonsensical of you to bring bible verses into it. We are talking about the law, not religion. One think you do actually need to consider is that not everyone follows your particular brand of religion, and your personal religious beliefs do not supersede other people’s beliefs. Or the law. Any thoughts on all men having vasectomies to cut down the vast majority of unwanted births? I am aware of these facts. I am also aware of the fact that God is in control of the world and everything in it. His commands supercede all of our laws and he will judge those who put human law ahead of them. That is not a fact. That is your belief. Still curious about your thoughts on requiring all men to get vasectomies.
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Post by puddleglum on Dec 9, 2021 6:07:46 GMT -5
I am aware of these facts. I am also aware of the fact that God is in control of the world and everything in it. His commands supercede all of our laws and he will judge those who put human law ahead of them. That is not a fact. That is your belief. Still curious about your thoughts on requiring all men to get vasectomies. Such a requirement would be a violation of men's civil rights. It would also not be practical because it would be hard to find enough doctors to perform this procedure on everyone.
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