emmjay
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Post by emmjay on Sept 18, 2019 11:36:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I think most people say they are middle class but would probably fall outside that range if you compared it to income percentiles. It’s funny, in the UK, “middle class” means more “upper middle class”, and it’s often derogatory. Like, “oh you eat quinoa and go to yogalates, you are so middle class”.
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Post by jen on Sept 18, 2019 13:51:03 GMT -5
I'd say we are upper middle class. I feel taxes for sure. I don't agree with all her programs but I am closer to that direction than any other. I think it's also a big ask and hoping you get close to that by the final product.
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 18, 2019 14:41:45 GMT -5
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Post by shaena on Sept 18, 2019 17:32:31 GMT -5
The best way I can put it for me is if I pay a dollar or two more in taxes but see a savings in my medical insurance and costs, that's a good thing!
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 18, 2019 19:33:17 GMT -5
I will believe we will see a savings in our medical costs when I see it.
Probably around the same time pigs fly.
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Post by shaena on Sept 19, 2019 5:11:01 GMT -5
Well sure, but if someone actually attempted to do it, that would be great, because what's going on now certainly is not working!
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Post by Peanut on Sept 19, 2019 8:16:04 GMT -5
I will believe we will see a savings in our medical costs when I see it. Probably around the same time pigs fly. Any medical costs savings will have to be invested in sturdier windshield wiper blades and extra-strength washer fluid. Zero-gain.
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Post by emmjay on Sept 19, 2019 10:34:28 GMT -5
I will believe we will see a savings in our medical costs when I see it. Probably around the same time pigs fly. The US already pays so much more per capita for its healthcare system than literally any other wealthy nation pays for national healthcare, so if costs didn’t go down, surely it would be easy to figure out the problem. Just look at any of the other countries’ systems and spot the differences.
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 19, 2019 10:48:04 GMT -5
This Country will never stop big Companies (like pharma, hospitals, ins companies) from making huge profits.
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Post by RichB on Sept 19, 2019 10:56:38 GMT -5
Well sure, but if someone actually attempted to do it, that would be great, because what's going on now certainly is not working!
Didn't Democrats promise that Obamacare was going to fix the problem? Why should we believe them this time?
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Post by mare on Sept 19, 2019 11:38:53 GMT -5
Well sure, but if someone actually attempted to do it, that would be great, because what's going on now certainly is not working!
Didn't Democrats promise that Obamacare was going to fix the problem? Why should we believe them this time?
At least they tried. What have Republicans done except try to get rid of it?
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Sept 19, 2019 11:43:56 GMT -5
I’ll end up paying for Elizabeth Warrens bullshit. Ultra millionaires have expensive lawyers to get them out of this shit. Then it falls on small business owners.
I’ll pay it all twice coz I’m self employed 🤷♀️😂
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Post by emmjay on Sept 19, 2019 12:07:03 GMT -5
I’ll end up paying for Elizabeth Warrens bullshit. Ultra millionaires have expensive lawyers to get them out of this shit. Then it falls on small business owners. I’ll pay it all twice coz I’m self employed 🤷♀️😂 Why does being self-employed mean you have to pay double tax? Double income tax?
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 19, 2019 12:11:28 GMT -5
Taxes for her business and also personal taxes (maybe )?
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 19, 2019 12:24:12 GMT -5
But the Ultra Millionaire tax is : "Just two cents for every dollar between $50 million and $1 billion." And I am guessing no one here or anyone I know makes $50 Million! ETA: I need better friends
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Sept 20, 2019 3:02:55 GMT -5
Taxes for her business and also personal taxes (maybe )? This, plus I match payroll tax for every employee... business owners who provide jobs opportunities for others get taxed A LOT
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Post by shaena on Sept 20, 2019 4:08:38 GMT -5
Well sure, but if someone actually attempted to do it, that would be great, because what's going on now certainly is not working!
Didn't Democrats promise that Obamacare was going to fix the problem? Why should we believe them this time?
As Emmjay said, they tried and keep trying. And there are some things I am grateful for, like keeping my kid with chronic illness on my policy after 18, and pre existing conditions clause, same reason. Republicans don't thrill me with their repeal ideas at all.
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Post by shaena on Sept 20, 2019 4:13:13 GMT -5
As a small business owner myself, I sure wish I could complain about the impact this would have on my millions!!
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Post by emmjay on Sept 20, 2019 6:24:29 GMT -5
Taxes for her business and also personal taxes (maybe )? This, plus I match payroll tax for every employee... business owners who provide jobs opportunities for others get taxed A LOT That stinks. Can you at least claim the matching employee taxes as expenses or offset them somehow?
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Post by Tpatt100 on Sept 20, 2019 6:50:09 GMT -5
Just work harder duh 😷
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