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Post by Sprockey on Mar 3, 2020 12:19:39 GMT -5
Re Sanders: we don't need a socialist version of Trump- PASS
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Post by Tpatt100 on Mar 3, 2020 12:21:41 GMT -5
That’s one small step for man, one giant jump and stuff
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Post by Sprockey on Mar 3, 2020 13:07:36 GMT -5
You know the thing
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Mar 3, 2020 15:13:11 GMT -5
I don't disagree- I just thought it was funny and depressing at the same time. Can you imagine a debate between Biden and Trump. It will make zero sense LOL Nothing makes sense any more 😂
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Mar 3, 2020 15:22:25 GMT -5
I don’t understand the BernieBros uproar over superdelegates making decisions and superdelegates being ‘anti-democratic’: most of them are elected officials. They were elected by people to represent them. It’s no more anti-Democratic than every bill before Congress not being subject to a popular vote. It’s their job to decide!
It's disturbing that people think they can use the threat of Trump to extort their candidate's way to the nomination, but that’s what’s happening with the BernieBro crowd. I don’t see any other candidates demanding the nomination with less than a majority while threatening divisiveness. One candidate (Bernie) wants to change the rules to advantage himself. If literally anyone else tried this, Bernie Bros would scream murder. If he wanted first past the post he should have advocated for that. And he shouldn’t be making vague intimations about how divisive it would be if he doesn’t get it.
Sanders has the same opportunity to try and get to a majority on the second ballot as any other candidate. If he can’t get that majority, that’s on him. As for the super delegates, they’re not ineffable beings. They’re party officials from a variety of levels. They’re mayors, governors, members of Congress and elected members of the national committee. This isn’t a bunch of mystery people in a smoke filled room.
If you want to be the presidential nominee and leader of a party, it might be useful to not spend decades railing against members of that same party. Then the Bro’s wouldn’t have to be so worried about superdelegates.
The Bernie Bro’s are just as bad as the Trump Stumpers.
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Post by lizziebeth on Mar 3, 2020 16:09:53 GMT -5
Doesn’t anybody use a damn speechwriter anymore?
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Post by Peanut on Mar 3, 2020 16:40:41 GMT -5
I'm not saying I adore Creepy Uncle Joe's orations, but I try to keep in mind that he deals with a lifelong stutter. Trump? He deals with rectal articulation.
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Post by alicechalmers on Mar 4, 2020 10:31:05 GMT -5
Bloomberg is out and endorsing Biden. Joementum indeed.
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Post by alicechalmers on Mar 4, 2020 10:48:02 GMT -5
The Bernie supporter behavior is ridiculous. How are people not ashamed of themselves?
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Post by Sprockey on Mar 4, 2020 11:19:00 GMT -5
The Bernie supporter behavior is ridiculous. How are people not ashamed of themselves? No kidding. People are now spreading memes comparing Biden to Trump (like they did comparing Trump to Hitler) It is ridiculous.
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Post by emmjay on Mar 4, 2020 12:22:58 GMT -5
I feel like Biden would be able to bring the moderate Republicans over, which Bernie would not. Also I don’t think any Dem can win without support from black voters, and Biden has that as well. Just worried it won’t be enough against Trump (and that the inevitable Bernie Bro tantrum will make the difference) I am sad Warren hasn’t done better. She is to the left of me, but I still like her the most out of all of the candidates.
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Post by Sprockey on Mar 4, 2020 13:01:24 GMT -5
It's the reason I voted for Bernie in the primary. I think he has the best chance to defeat Trump. Sanders is too big of a risk.
And I am sure the tantrum from his supporters will be epic.
Warren started out so strong. I can't believe she came in 3rd in MA. Practically everyone I know voted for her.
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Post by Sprockey on Mar 4, 2020 13:15:59 GMT -5
#BernieOrBust is already trending.
Idiots
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Mar 4, 2020 13:50:55 GMT -5
#BernieOrBust is already trending. Idiots It’s awful. They’re literally just choosing “bust”. The Bernie people I know are becoming intolerable, really. You can’t say anything without it being about Bernie or how everything is rigged against Bernie. “I had some good chicken last night” “If we don’t elect Bernie no one will ever be able to eat chicken again coz the chickens are rigged in favor of Joe Biden! Seriously. Fuck off...
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Post by Sprockey on Mar 4, 2020 14:01:40 GMT -5
I may have already posted this but trading one cult for another is not a solution to anything
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Post by emmjay on Mar 4, 2020 14:18:19 GMT -5
I will say that most of the Bernie supporters I have seen in various FB groups have all said they will vote for the Dem candidate either way, but they will be furious about it. I don’t care if they are furious as long as they get over it and vote Dem.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Mar 4, 2020 14:22:55 GMT -5
I will say that most of the Bernie supporters I have seen in various FB groups have all said they will vote for the Dem candidate either way, but they will be furious about it. I don’t care if they are furious as long as they get over it and vote Dem. I know several pulling the “I won’t vote unless it’s for Bernie” Fuck off with that nonsense... or vote 3rd party.
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Post by alicechalmers on Mar 4, 2020 14:53:14 GMT -5
I do think most Bernie supporters are reasonable humans. The vocal few are the problem.
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Post by stellarfeller on Mar 5, 2020 10:54:17 GMT -5
Elizabeth Warren is dropping out.
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Post by maurinsky on Mar 5, 2020 11:10:20 GMT -5
Bummed about Warren dropping out, and in general pissed about the whole primary season. Harris, Booker, Castro all should have been able to stay competitive through Super Tuesday. So tired of old men. No apology to the old men out there.
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