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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 16, 2020 23:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by Tpatt100 on Apr 17, 2020 5:18:28 GMT -5
I think more should be done but there is a lot of money to be made in the food industry....
Also there were a lot of obese people with rifles and confederate flags at the Michigan protests so I am sure they would be really outraged....
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Post by mare on Apr 17, 2020 6:13:47 GMT -5
Exactly how does the government ban obesity?
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Post by alicechalmers on Apr 17, 2020 6:24:22 GMT -5
It’s not a logical comparison, and going outside isn’t banned.
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Post by nansel on Apr 17, 2020 8:14:50 GMT -5
 Critical thinking fail. |
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Post by RobinAnn on Apr 17, 2020 9:46:44 GMT -5
It could start if the medical community (DDS included) would stop shaming obese people and treating it like a disease rather than a moral failing.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 9:55:08 GMT -5
It could start if the medical community (DDS included) would stop shaming obese people and treating it like a disease rather than a moral failing. I don’t think I’ve said anything but medical data in this thread. Facts may be upsetting but that isn’t shaming. If the government is concerned with saving the most number of lives then this is the logical starting place. |
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 9:58:26 GMT -5
Exactly how does the government ban obesity? The government can fine those that do not comply with their regulations. For example, right now if you go surfing in California and break the governments social distancing ban you get fined $800? $1000? In order to discourage congregation on the beach, help prevent the spread of disease and save lives. In theory, the government could also fine those who are overweight in order to discourage obesity, help prevent disease and save lives. |
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Post by Tpatt100 on Apr 17, 2020 10:05:13 GMT -5
A fat tax might be a good motivator for me.....
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Post by shaena on Apr 17, 2020 10:06:01 GMT -5
The government will give over weight people?
Jeebus lets institute government fat camps too!
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Post by shaena on Apr 17, 2020 10:07:24 GMT -5
Obesity is prevalent in those who are poor and sometimes due to lack of availability of healthy food. Maybe that should be solved first.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 10:23:56 GMT -5
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 10:28:15 GMT -5
A fat tax might be a good motivator for me..... If the government is truly interested in saving lives and lowering healthcare costs then obesity is the disease to start with. |
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Post by mare on Apr 17, 2020 10:47:35 GMT -5
A fat tax might be a good motivator for me..... If the government is truly interested in saving lives and lowering healthcare costs then obesity is the disease to start with. Fining people is certainly not the place to start. That will do exactly nothing. There are all sorts of factors at play: 1. Sugar is addictive. It has been argued as addictive as some illegal drugs 2. Poorer people with single parent households, lower wage jobs, working multiple jobs, etc... often only have the time and energy to prepare convenience food or get fast food. 3. Eating healthy takes menu planning and meal preparation. People living in generational poverty likely do not have these skills. 4. Being poor is stressful. Eating high sugar, high fat foods is a self-medicating means of coping (also for people not so poor). I'm sure there are more I can't think of now. Reducing obesity requires all sorts of social programs we as a nation don't want to pay for. |
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 10:54:21 GMT -5
If the government is truly interested in saving lives and lowering healthcare costs then obesity is the disease to start with. Fining people is certainly not the place to start. That will do exactly nothing. There are all sorts of factors at play: 1. Sugar is addictive. It has been argued as addictive as some illegal drugs 2. Poorer people with single parent households, lower wage jobs, working multiple jobs, etc... often only have the time and energy to prepare convenience food or get fast food. 3. Eating healthy takes menu planning and meal preparation. People living in generational poverty likely do not have these skills. 4. Being poor is stressful. Eating high sugar, high fat foods is a self-medicating means of coping (also for people not so poor). I'm sure there are more I can't think of now. Reducing obesity requires all sorts of social programs we as a nation don't want to pay for. Fining was just an example coz someone asked for an example.. Sugar is addictive as illegal drugs. Yes. And we made drugs illegal, and we often fine and/or jail people for using them as a deterrent to keep people from getting sick from drugs. Maybe we need to make sugar a controlled substance.🤷♀️ |
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Post by mare on Apr 17, 2020 11:01:21 GMT -5
Fining people is certainly not the place to start. That will do exactly nothing. There are all sorts of factors at play: 1. Sugar is addictive. It has been argued as addictive as some illegal drugs 2. Poorer people with single parent households, lower wage jobs, working multiple jobs, etc... often only have the time and energy to prepare convenience food or get fast food. 3. Eating healthy takes menu planning and meal preparation. People living in generational poverty likely do not have these skills. 4. Being poor is stressful. Eating high sugar, high fat foods is a self-medicating means of coping (also for people not so poor). I'm sure there are more I can't think of now. Reducing obesity requires all sorts of social programs we as a nation don't want to pay for. Fining was just an example coz someone asked for an example.. Sugar is addictive as illegal drugs. Yes. And we made drugs illegal, and we often fine and/or jail people for using them as a deterrent to keep people from getting sick from drugs. Maybe we need to make sugar a controlled substance.🤷♀️ Jailing people for drug use is stupid. Perhaps we should jail Hostess or Little Debbie CEOs |
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 11:05:51 GMT -5
Fining was just an example coz someone asked for an example.. Sugar is addictive as illegal drugs. Yes. And we made drugs illegal, and we often fine and/or jail people for using them as a deterrent to keep people from getting sick from drugs. Maybe we need to make sugar a controlled substance.🤷♀️ Jailing people for drug use is stupid. Perhaps we should jail Hostess or Little Debbie CEOs They’re killing as many or more than drug dealers 🤷♀️ Maybe we need to outlaw foods with certain nutritional deficiencies like Hostess stuff. 🤷♀️ If the junk doesn’t exist then people can’t buy it. |
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Post by shaena on Apr 17, 2020 11:11:46 GMT -5
I live in a rural poor area. A large percentage of children are currently depending on picking their school breakfasts and lunches plus Pantry items to provide basic needed nutrition and care. There is a lack of any sort of affordable public transport and there are quite a few people who do not have regular access to any sort of storage or kitchen. We deliver to those who have no transport and provide foods a child can easily handle.
It's super easy to hand someone a bag of rice and beans a whole other thing for them to have the means to cook it.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Apr 17, 2020 11:37:47 GMT -5
I live in a rural poor area. A large percentage of children are currently depending on picking their school breakfasts and lunches plus Pantry items to provide basic needed nutrition and care. There is a lack of any sort of affordable public transport and there are quite a few people who do not have regular access to any sort of storage or kitchen. We deliver to those who have no transport and provide foods a child can easily handle. It's super easy to hand someone a bag of rice and beans a whole other thing for them to have the means to cook it. There is a lot of that. Theres also a lot of obesity in non-poor populations. 🤷♀️ Poverty isn’t the sole contributing factor to obesity. Our president is pretty wealthy and also obese (whether he admits it or not). |
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Post by shaena on Apr 17, 2020 11:52:59 GMT -5
I live in a rural poor area. A large percentage of children are currently depending on picking their school breakfasts and lunches plus Pantry items to provide basic needed nutrition and care. There is a lack of any sort of affordable public transport and there are quite a few people who do not have regular access to any sort of storage or kitchen. We deliver to those who have no transport and provide foods a child can easily handle. It's super easy to hand someone a bag of rice and beans a whole other thing for them to have the means to cook it. There is a lot of that. Theres also a lot of obesity in non-poor populations. 🤷♀️ Poverty isn’t the sole contributing factor to obesity. Our president is pretty wealthy and also obese (whether he admits it or not). I know that. I also know it is easier for people with lots of money to make changes to their lifestyles. |
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Critical thinking fail. 
