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Post by nansel on Aug 11, 2020 19:45:45 GMT -5
So what’s up with people claiming she’s horrible? Is that just typical partisan stuff? I read in different places that she’s “ not even African American” and that black people hate her?
In any clips of her I’ve seen she’s seems great.
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Post by villanelle on Aug 11, 2020 19:59:50 GMT -5
I look forward to watching a Harris/Pence debate. She is smart, informed, dignified...pretty much the opposite of him. I wonder if he allows himself to be alone with a woman on stage. His loins might get the better of him, or she might cry rape, or whatever it is he's worried about.
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Post by justthinking on Aug 11, 2020 20:01:47 GMT -5
I look forward to watching a Harris/Pence debate. She is smart, informed, dignified...pretty much the opposite of him. I wonder if he allows himself to be alone with a woman on stage. His loins might get the better of him, or she might cry rape, or whatever it is he's worried about. Perhaps Mother will join him on stage. Really, though, the thought of hearing an intelligent, well-spoken, strong person speak on that VP debate stage is way more exciting now that we've experienced 4 years of blathering idiots.
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Post by Tpatt100 on Aug 11, 2020 20:07:34 GMT -5
So what’s up with people claiming she’s horrible? Is that just typical partisan stuff? I read in different places that she’s “ not even African American” and that black people hate her? In any clips of her I’ve seen she’s seems great. I remember something about her being especially harsh on crime? I need to look it up but I remember it coming up when she was running
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Post by justthinking on Aug 11, 2020 22:03:56 GMT -5
She was a DA before she was a senator. There will always be people who love you and people who hate you if you are a DA.
The whole, "she's not even African American" thing is just stupid.
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Post by marianparoo on Aug 12, 2020 8:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by Peanut on Aug 12, 2020 8:51:42 GMT -5
I'm very slow this morning. Explanation, please and thank you?
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Post by marianparoo on Aug 12, 2020 10:00:33 GMT -5
B"H - Beit/Hey (no Hebrew keyboard, sorry) stands for Be'ezrat Ha'Shem - With God's Help.
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Post by maurinsky on Aug 12, 2020 11:00:25 GMT -5
She is both a cop and weak on crime, according to the GOP. She is not black, because one of her ancestors was a slave owner, apparently! Because I'm sure that was a consensual situation!
She's a woman, so she's going to get all kinds of negative stuff thrown at her: she'll be strident or nasty or ambitious or all kinds of things that are perfectly acceptable for a male candidate.
My eyes are on the prize, and the prize is eliminating Trump and destroying the GOP electorally. I don't care about the details of the candidates on the dem side right now - they are exponentially better than what we have now.
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Post by justthinking on Aug 12, 2020 11:06:26 GMT -5
She is both a cop and weak on crime, according to the GOP. She is not black, because one of her ancestors was a slave owner, apparently! Because I'm sure that was a consensual situation! She's a woman, so she's going to get all kinds of negative stuff thrown at her: she'll be strident or nasty or ambitious or all kinds of things that are perfectly acceptable for a male candidate. My eyes are on the prize, and the prize is eliminating Trump and destroying the GOP electorally. I don't care about the details of the candidates on the dem side right now - they are exponentially better than what we have now. The whole, "Her great-great-however-many-greats grandfather was a slave owner in Jamaica," line shows such ignorance. Many slave owners have African American descendants due to the number of owners who raped their slaves. Also, having her slave ancestors be taken to Jamaica instead of the US does not make those ancestors any less African in origin. People clearly didn't pay attention in 8th grade history.
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Post by emmjay on Aug 12, 2020 12:05:14 GMT -5
Apparently she is also a slut for dating a man who was estranged from his wife, and he’s the only reason she has a career. Never mind that they only dated or a year and she was elected to multiple positions well after that. Never mind that this crap is only ever directed at women. And never mind the hypocrisy of Trump supporters chastising someone over anything to do with sexual morality. One of my husband’s female Trump-supporting friends posted on FB that Biden only chose Harris because he is “pandering to women”. There are more women than men in the US! And more women vote than men! If anything, it’s pandering to have a man on the ballot. Why do so many people - even women - think the automatic default for a qualified candidate is “white man”? What decade are we living in?
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Post by Tpatt100 on Aug 12, 2020 21:22:47 GMT -5
Apparently she is also a slut for dating a man who was estranged from his wife, and he’s the only reason she has a career. Never mind that they only dated or a year and she was elected to multiple positions well after that. Never mind that this crap is only ever directed at women. And never mind the hypocrisy of Trump supporters chastising someone over anything to do with sexual morality. One of my husband’s female Trump-supporting friends posted on FB that Biden only chose Harris because he is “pandering to women”. There are more women than men in the US! And more women vote than men! If anything, it’s pandering to have a man on the ballot. Why do so many people - even women - think the automatic default for a qualified candidate is “white man”? What decade are we living in? When people use the word “pandering” its an admission that they preferred that they be the ones pandered you. Also they are admitting they think they are the default group and all others are inferior
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Post by Sprockey on Aug 13, 2020 5:54:55 GMT -5
as I've said a hundred times- this election isn't about Biden. It's about Trump and getting him the eff out. Hopefully in a landslide
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Post by Tpatt100 on Aug 14, 2020 8:38:29 GMT -5
I remember somebody saying Trump winning was a mandate from the nation. I wonder what sort of bullshit mental gymnastics they will perform to explain if he loses that it’s not a mandate....
Of course it will be due to cheating, if Texas goes blue that’s a WMD sized mandate....
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Post by Inky on Aug 17, 2020 20:55:00 GMT -5
I remember somebody saying Trump winning was a mandate from the nation. I wonder what sort of bullshit mental gymnastics they will perform to explain if he loses that it’s not a mandate.... Of course it will be due to cheating, if Texas goes blue that’s a WMD sized mandate.... If Trump loses we are going to have to listen to years of whining about the elections being rigged, China interfering, etc. Frankly if he does lose, it's going to be almost as bad listening to that, as it has been listening to him since 2016. At least for me. I don't have a dog in this fight.
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Post by villanelle on Aug 17, 2020 21:56:53 GMT -5
I'm starting to have a LOT of anxiety about the election. I'm legitimately scared for what is going to happen, regardless of who wins (or "wins", as the case may well be).
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Post by jen on Aug 18, 2020 11:08:43 GMT -5
The more conservative people I speak with, the more I’m convinced he will be reelected. If you have any interest in understanding the other side of the aisle, I suggest you listen to the New York Times podcast "the argument". There’s a couple of intelligent people who are making their case for why Trump should be reelected. These aren’t idiots. These aren’t raving lunatics. These are people who are comparing their two choices and believe their personal interests are better suited with a trump ticket.
It scared the fuck out of me.
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Post by justthinking on Aug 18, 2020 11:53:03 GMT -5
The more conservative people I speak with, the more I’m convinced he will be reelected. If you have any interest in understanding the other side of the aisle, I suggest you listen to the New York Times podcast "the argument". There’s a couple of intelligent people who are making their case for why Trump should be reelected. These aren’t idiots. These aren’t raving lunatics. These are people who are comparing their two choices and believe their personal interests are better suited with a trump ticket. It scared the fuck out of me. I am trying to mentally prepare myself for what seems inevitable. I'm also glad we only have one kid left in high school, as that allows me to start looking at things like teaching overseas in a country with a sane leader.
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Post by emmjay on Aug 18, 2020 12:20:47 GMT -5
The more conservative people I speak with, the more I’m convinced he will be reelected. If you have any interest in understanding the other side of the aisle, I suggest you listen to the New York Times podcast "the argument". There’s a couple of intelligent people who are making their case for why Trump should be reelected. These aren’t idiots. These aren’t raving lunatics. These are people who are comparing their two choices and believe their personal interests are better suited with a trump ticket. It scared the fuck out of me. I am trying to mentally prepare myself for what seems inevitable. I'm also glad we only have one kid left in high school, as that allows me to start looking at things like teaching overseas in a country with a sane leader. Let me know if you want any info about applying to or working in international schools! I am worried, too. It is unbelievable to me that anyone thinks he is a better choice. He will run the country into the ground. This is the worrying piece I saw: www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/16/are-trumps-prospects-better-than-experts-think-washington-state-might-hold-clue/
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Post by justthinking on Aug 18, 2020 12:28:03 GMT -5
Will do. Right now I have my eye on one of the American schools on Taiwan, as I lived in Taiwan for two years right out of college and it is a beautiful place to live and work. The downside is that school is in the middle of a big city, so I would have to get used to city life after a couple of decades in spacious suburbs.
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