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Post by Sprockey on Sept 27, 2017 14:36:13 GMT -5
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 27, 2017 14:36:32 GMT -5
What say you?
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Post by TheChicken on Sept 27, 2017 14:49:16 GMT -5
I don't agree with everything every woman says. That's absurd. We are not a collective and we don't all have the same voice.
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Post by TapToTalk on Sept 27, 2017 14:51:19 GMT -5
It's a message that resonates with people who voted for Hillary.
Most people don't like someone telling them what's in their best interest.
"You don't like your voice." -- Give me a break.
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Post by Tpatt100 on Sept 27, 2017 15:14:00 GMT -5
It’s using guilt to get you to vote for what is in the best interest of THEM not yourself.
It’s like saying your vote was wasted.
I say don’t choose shitty candidates for us while putting on a dog and pony show to make us think we actually had a choice in a candidate for the Democratic Party.
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Post by villanelle on Sept 28, 2017 4:24:20 GMT -5
I don't completely disagree. That's not because Hillary is a woman. It's because Trump is a pussy-grabbing misogynist. A vote for him, IMO, was a vote against women's voices. That would be true whether the other candidate was Hillary or Obama or Al Gore. I guess it's not that a vote against Hillary was a vote agains their voice, but maybe a vote for Trump was. But this is also based on what I think is most important to my "woman's voice" and I can acknowledge that to some women, NAFTA and gun rights and white supremacy  are more important. |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2017 7:04:04 GMT -5
Hillary did not represent my voice.
My voice, my position, my stance is a result of the ideas and thoughts in my head, not my chromosomal makeup.
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Post by Peanut on Sept 28, 2017 8:26:39 GMT -5
Team Andrea.
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Post by shaena on Sept 28, 2017 8:29:24 GMT -5
I don't completely disagree. That's not because Hillary is a woman. It's because Trump is a pussy-grabbing misogynist. A vote for him, IMO, was a vote against women's voices. That would be true whether the other candidate was Hillary or Obama or Al Gore. I guess it's not that a vote against Hillary was a vote agains their voice, but maybe a vote for Trump was. But this is also based on what I think is most important to my "woman's voice" and I can acknowledge that to some women, NAFTA and gun rights and white supremacy are more important. Oh Dear, Vill is representing my woman's voice! |
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Post by Yogagirl on Sept 28, 2017 8:32:15 GMT -5
I think we vote based on a variety of factors/voices. I guess it depends which voice is loudest. I vote as a woman, a mother, a tax payer, someone nearing retirement, a home owner and not necessarily in that order. I agree that a vote for Trump was a denial of that woman voice. Maybe the economic needs voice was stronger.
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Post by Peanut on Sept 28, 2017 8:49:03 GMT -5
So, what does my vote for Johnson say? It says I am exhausted by the two main political parties and their candidates (regardless of gender), and our nation needs a viable third party on the ballot. I humbly submit the opinion that our country was screwed no matter which major party candidate won, so I used my vote as a very minor protest. The election thresholds vary by State, but Johnson was correct in that 5% of the vote makes a big difference when considering a party's chance at federal funding for the next election cycle. If all of the money is thrown at "The Big Two", what chance do other parties have? ETA: Attempts to link loop back to this thread for some reason. Cut and paste: transition.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml |
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Post by TheChicken on Sept 28, 2017 9:23:14 GMT -5
I don't completely disagree. That's not because Hillary is a woman. It's because Trump is a pussy-grabbing misogynist. A vote for him, IMO, was a vote against women's voices. That would be true whether the other candidate was Hillary or Obama or Al Gore. I guess it's not that a vote against Hillary was a vote agains their voice, but maybe a vote for Trump was. But this is also based on what I think is most important to my "woman's voice" and I can acknowledge that to some women, NAFTA and gun rights and white supremacy are more important. Oh Dear, Vill is representing my woman's voice!  |
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Post by Lor on Sept 28, 2017 9:35:40 GMT -5
I think it would be more appropriate to say that a woman that voted for Trump voted against their own best interest. He's proven himself to be a misogynistic bastard and there's no way he has women's best interest at heart.
Voting for a woman simply because she is a woman is as sexist as not voting for a woman just because she's a woman.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 9:54:18 GMT -5
Women who voted for Trump or who indirectly voted for Trump by withholding their vote from Clinton helped elect a man who, by his own words, has no real respect for women. They are sex objects who are to be exploited because, and again in HIS words, he is rich and powerful enough to do it pretty much with impunity. It is, in fact, a joke to him because, in fact, we are objects of ridicule to him.
This isn't an unusual phenomenon. One could and still can find women who will vigorously support a person or institution that is blatantly sexist and even misogynist in nature. They have been culturally brainwashed to accept their lot as right and proper. I believe that it's something akin to the "Stockholm Syndrome".
You don't think so? Well, consider this. Even though only 14% of the population is African American and over 50% of the population is female, and even though Blacks are hated or at least looked down upon by a significant portion of the population while true misogynists are far fewer in number, we have elected an African American president before electing a female one. You can thank WOMEN for THAT!
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Post by Tpatt100 on Sept 28, 2017 10:03:26 GMT -5
Unfortunately some of those women became racist after voting for Obamacare I guess
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Post by Sprockey on Sept 28, 2017 11:01:25 GMT -5
I used my voice to vote against both candidates  |
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Post by TapToTalk on Sept 28, 2017 15:26:22 GMT -5
Hillary did not represent my voice. My voice, my position, my stance is a result of the ideas and thoughts in my head, not my chromosomal makeup. Why do you hate your voice? |
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Post by Sprockey on Oct 5, 2017 9:16:36 GMT -5
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Post by Tpatt100 on Oct 5, 2017 9:28:17 GMT -5
Uh, they won?
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Post by TapToTalk on Oct 5, 2017 12:05:22 GMT -5
The usual "only Democrats can handle diversity and nuance" gobbledy-gook. Her "broad range of perspective" typically means voices ranging from Noam Chomsky to her husband. Any perspective to Barack's right must be from "white men" and not worth hearing.
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are more important. 
