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Post by Sprockey on Oct 8, 2017 7:20:01 GMT -5
Story highlights: Employers may now have more leeway to withhold birth control coverage on religious grounds Policy experts argue that this could open the door to hundreds of employers dropping coverage The rules would let a broad range of employers -- including nonprofits, private firms and publicly traded companies -- stop offering contraceptives through their health insurance plans if they have a "sincerely held religious or moral objection," senior agency officials said on a call about the implementation and enforcement of the new rules. www.cnn.com/2017/10/06/health/trump-birth-control-mandate/index.html?CNNPolitics=fb |
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Post by Sprockey on Oct 8, 2017 7:22:29 GMT -5
I have argued before that I think bc pills should be over the counter.
But is this for every bc intervention or just contraceptives?
I dont think religion should have a place in healthcare.
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Post by Eli on Oct 8, 2017 8:00:26 GMT -5
This is ridiculous and I believe it's all contraceptives.
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Post by beccaphel on Oct 8, 2017 11:52:22 GMT -5
I have argued before that I think bc pills should be over the counter. But is this for every bc intervention or just contraceptives? I dont think religion should have a place in healthcare. I'd be good with bc pills being otc. I think the mandate applies to any bc that needs a medical professional to prescribe or insert. I don't think religion should have a place in healthcare, either. I also will add that I am fairly certain there are nuns who use the pill for reasons other than contraception. Save |
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Post by TapToTalk on Oct 8, 2017 12:00:44 GMT -5
Another mandate shot down. You either go through the legislative process or not. But, if you legislate by EO, don't be surprised when the next one overturns it.
Obama did make some representations to Catholic supporters on how he was going to handle religious exceptions on birth control. He burned them.
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Post by marianparoo on Oct 8, 2017 13:39:00 GMT -5
Even with all the power of the ultra-orthodox Jews in this country, Plan B is OTC.
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Post by puppylove on Oct 8, 2017 17:19:59 GMT -5
Beyond time to take religion out of healthcare (and government).
I'm sure I will never see it in my lifetime, but I hope there is a point in human life that people realize there is no imaginary guy in the sky. So much grief could be avoided.
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Post by TapToTalk on Oct 8, 2017 18:46:58 GMT -5
Even with all the power of the ultra-orthodox Jews in this country, Plan B is OTC. They have no power outside of NYC. Birth control should be OTC. |
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Post by Sprockey on Oct 11, 2017 7:35:43 GMT -5
Does anyone really think that most employers (outside some fringe religious ones) will stop covering BC for their employees??
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Post by TheChicken on Oct 11, 2017 8:33:21 GMT -5
I don’t think hormonal birth control should be OTC.
Is it just your place of employment that can decide not to provide the coverage? Or can the company that provides the RX plan for your company decide not to provide the coverage?
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Post by stl on Oct 11, 2017 9:28:40 GMT -5
I think employers choose what coverage they want to pay for, within the confines of the law.
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Post by TapToTalk on Oct 11, 2017 10:09:55 GMT -5
I still not clear why it shouldn't be treated like any other prescription drug. How do we choose which ones require a co-pay and which ones don't? If a woman can afford the co-pay, why should everyone else pay for it? A person with high cholesterol, for example, doesn't get their medicine for free.
Is it all based on who can lobby Congress the best?
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Post by Sprockey on Oct 11, 2017 11:47:41 GMT -5
I agree TtT
And also what you said here:
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Post by stl on Oct 11, 2017 11:48:08 GMT -5
BC is more than just pills. I had a tubal a few years ago that was covered at 100% because it was contraception. Otherwise it would have fallen under my outpatient surgery coverage.
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Post by mare on Oct 11, 2017 15:43:36 GMT -5
I still not clear why it shouldn't be treated like any other prescription drug. How do we choose which ones require a co-pay and which ones don't? If a woman can afford the co-pay, why should everyone else pay for it? A person with high cholesterol, for example, doesn't get their medicine for free. Is it all based on who can lobby Congress the best? Some medication such as Amoxicillin is free as well. Or, not really free since people do pay insurance premiums. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk |
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Post by beccaphel on Oct 11, 2017 20:58:36 GMT -5
I still not clear why it shouldn't be treated like any other prescription drug. How do we choose which ones require a co-pay and which ones don't? If a woman can afford the co-pay, why should everyone else pay for it? A person with high cholesterol, for example, doesn't get their medicine for free. Is it all based on who can lobby Congress the best? I'm thinking providing birth control with no copay may very well be cheaper in many cases for the insurers than an unplanned pregnancy. There are several drugs that don't require co-pays. Most well visits don't require co-pays, either. I'm good with all of that. Save |
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Post by TheChicken on Oct 12, 2017 5:56:41 GMT -5
Birth control RX is treated the same as other prescriptions on my plan. There are tiers. If you are prescribed a drug in the top tier you have no, or a low, copay. In other tiers it varies. The first pill that was prescribed for my daughter cost me a deductible and a copay. It didn’t work out and we tried another that was free. That one didn’t work out either so we tried a third. I am fortunate enough to have no copay, but it’s not that way for all pills.
I thought the mandate was free or affordable birth control?
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Post by TapToTalk on Oct 12, 2017 12:39:50 GMT -5
I still not clear why it shouldn't be treated like any other prescription drug. How do we choose which ones require a co-pay and which ones don't? If a woman can afford the co-pay, why should everyone else pay for it? A person with high cholesterol, for example, doesn't get their medicine for free. Is it all based on who can lobby Congress the best? I'm thinking providing birth control with no copay may very well be cheaper in many cases for the insurers than an unplanned pregnancy. There are several drugs that don't require co-pays. Most well visits don't require co-pays, either. I'm good with all of that. SaveAre you saying that someone who can afford a $20-30 copay is not going to pay it and risk a pregnancy? |
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Post by jen on Oct 12, 2017 16:26:24 GMT -5
I'm thinking providing birth control with no copay may very well be cheaper in many cases for the insurers than an unplanned pregnancy. There are several drugs that don't require co-pays. Most well visits don't require co-pays, either. I'm good with all of that. SaveAre you saying that someone who can afford a $20-30 copay is not going to pay it and risk a pregnancy? They do! |
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Post by TapToTalk on Oct 13, 2017 14:51:03 GMT -5
I thought it was free. If it's not, then never mind  |
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