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Post by Sprockey on Jul 19, 2018 8:57:39 GMT -5
www.theknifemedia.com/Headlines are addictive. Media is polarizing. News leaves a bad aftertaste. You can cut through it all. FIRST We strip news of bias so it’s just the news. THEN We summarize key info to save you time. FINALLY We show the spin so you’re not misled. I don't want to pay to subscribe, but I sure wish there were more sources like this.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 19, 2018 8:59:32 GMT -5
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 19, 2018 9:00:43 GMT -5
No spin, just the facts.
Why can't all news sites strive for this kind of reporting? It would be nice.
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Post by Tpatt100 on Jul 19, 2018 9:08:18 GMT -5
MGM is protecting itself from lawsuits with a preemptive lawsuit. It sounds terrible but people will try to take as much money as possible from MGM and they have to protect themselves from the lawsuits.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 19, 2018 9:11:51 GMT -5
Right. There is a reason MGM is suing. But that is not the narrative being spun all over the place.
It might be worth $15 a year to get all of my news from this one site and ignore everything else so that I can limit my exposure to being propagandized
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Post by mare on Jul 19, 2018 11:33:02 GMT -5
A segue...I went to Vegas last weekend. No security checks at entrances to hotels. My friend checked in and got room keys via a kiosk. No security for non hotel guests accessing room floors. Scary.
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Post by Mamapalooza on Jul 19, 2018 14:25:30 GMT -5
Love The Knife, I've been following them on facebook for some time, and now I've unfollowed every single big media outlet I had (keeping a few small, local ones). They do a fantastic job of both analyzing the MSM's spin and putting out there own straight-up, unspun content. Even subtle spin is pointed out, and once you recognize it it's impossible NOT to see. It's very American of course, but they do give some global perspective as well.
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Post by TapToTalk on Jul 21, 2018 18:59:52 GMT -5
A segue...I went to Vegas last weekend. No security checks at entrances to hotels. My friend checked in and got room keys via a kiosk. No security for non hotel guests accessing room floors. Scary. You're putting your personal bias in the story by saying it's "scary". Seriously, there weren't any security people by the elevators checking if you had a room key?
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Post by mare on Jul 21, 2018 19:24:34 GMT -5
A segue...I went to Vegas last weekend. No security checks at entrances to hotels. My friend checked in and got room keys via a kiosk. No security for non hotel guests accessing room floors. Scary. You're putting your personal bias in the story by saying it's "scary". Seriously, there weren't any security people by the elevators checking if you had a room key? Nope. Anyone could go up the elevators to the rooms. When I was in San Diego for a conference in June, you could only access the room floors on the elevator with a room key.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 22, 2018 21:03:39 GMT -5
From this site: A timeline of Trump’s post-Helsinki comments on Russia July 21, 2018 The Raw Data Unspun and unbiased. These are the facts. Trump says he agrees with US intel on alleged interference President Donald Trump told CBS News on Wednesday that he agrees with U.S. intelligence conclusions that Russia attempted to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, and that he would hold Putin personally responsible for it “because he’s in charge of the country.” Trump said that at their Monday Helsinki meeting, he told Putin in “very strong” terms that “we can’t have meddling,” and that he “let him know we can’t have this [interference], we’re not going to have it, and that’s the way it’s going to be.” Read the full Raw Data here. Distortion Highlights Some of Trump’s comments about Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 elections have been seemingly inconsistent or contradictory We provide a brief but objective timeline of what was said, so readers can draw their own conclusions As a bonus, we analyze the opinion and spin the media added** www.theknifemedia.com/world-news/a-timeline-of-trumps-post-helsinki-comments-on-russia/#distortion
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 22, 2018 21:06:06 GMT -5
Here is an analysis of the spin we got from other sites:
The media’s distortions
The four outlets The Knife analyzed reported most of Trump’s and Sanders’ comments. But unlike the above timeline, which allows a data-to-data comparison, the media emphasized the inconsistencies with dramatic language and certain assumptions about Trump’s intent. It was similar to how outlets reported on Monday’s press conference, which The Knife analyzed earlier this week. The Associated Press’ and Politico’s articles were the most spun of the four, with spin ratings of 77 and 76 percent respectively (where 100 is completely spun). AP wrote that Trump “backtracked,” “zigzagged” and “waffled,” and that he “spent a second day … shifting stances and mopping upwhat the White House said were misstatements.” Politico had some of the most dramatic statements, among them:
The president appeared Wednesday to walk back his walk-backs on Kremlin interference in the 2016 election. Trump’s position on Russian interference in America’s elections has devolved into a game ofsemantics, with Trump loudlycasting doubt on the assessment of his own intelligence agencies only tohalf-heartedly backtrack when his comments draw forcefulcondemnation, including from members of his own party. Trump’s defense follows a whirlwindfew days in which he found himself perplexed by the severe blowbackto his remarks in Helsinki. It played out the same way on Tuesday during Trump’s tightly choreographed mea culpa.
Aside from being sensational, descriptions such as a “tightly choreographed mea culpa” and a “game of semantics” read into Trump’s supposed intent. While it’s possible these were his intentions, these assessments aren’t coming from him — they’re the outlets’ interpretations of his actions and reasoning. The New York Times’ and The Guardian’sarticles were similarly distorted, the first calling Trump’s “shifting” statements “semantic hairsplitting,” and the second writing that they were “tortured effort” and “backflips.” The outlets also emphasized the sense of time in their reporting, such as Politico writing that “for the third day in a row” Trump and his aides clarified his previous statements, or AP and The Guardian writing in their headlines that Trump “now” says or claims he was “very strong” with President Vladimir Putin. Between the lines may be a disapproving, perhaps sarcastic tone. Enter the media’s judgment: it’s not just that Trump seemingly contradicted himself — these reports seem to rub it in. Is that part of the media’s responsibility? Quite possibly not. Trump’s statements speak for themselves, and again, the media could simply report what he said so readers can evaluate his statements without the media’s opinions in the mix.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 22, 2018 21:10:03 GMT -5
Cool site
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Post by emmjay on Jul 22, 2018 21:25:56 GMT -5
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 23, 2018 7:28:13 GMT -5
I read half of that and then started getting spammy pop-ups
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 23, 2018 7:32:08 GMT -5
MediaBias Fact CheckHonestly, I just wish other sites would emulate whatever approach they are using. It would be nice to read articles without spin.
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Post by andrea on Jul 23, 2018 8:17:37 GMT -5
Honestly, I just wish other sites would emulate whatever approach they are using. It would be nice to read articles without spin. If you read factual news without spin you may reach your own conclusions and formulate your own opinions about what is going on in the world. Can't have that. You must be told how to feel and what to think by those who know better than you. If you're not led by the nose, why, anything could happen. People in control would lose control. People in control lost control in the last election. They're not happy.
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Post by emmjay on Jul 23, 2018 8:50:59 GMT -5
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 23, 2018 9:04:00 GMT -5
Yeah, that's all weird. And I won't pay $15 a month, either. But so far the no-spin articles I have read by them are good (and I still wish there were more sites like them).
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Post by emmjay on Jul 23, 2018 9:22:43 GMT -5
I am skeptical. It just seems like they probably have another agenda, and several of their analysts are affiliated with that cult. Weird. Hopefully other sites will be developed with a similar purpose, but without the sex cult part.
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Post by andrea on Jul 23, 2018 11:40:27 GMT -5
Their content appears legitimate. I'm skeptical. Has hallmarks of a smear.
Interesting that the author calls it a right leaning website when there's no spin. LOL.
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