|
Post by Peachy on Feb 26, 2019 9:26:22 GMT -5
My observations of my coworkers is that work ethic seems to be lacking these days. I typically get to work 15-30 minutes early because of my workload. My counterpart, who has just as much work to do, gets to work 6 minutes late every day. She drops off her jacket and purse on her desk, punches in, and then makes a beeline to another coworker’s office and chats for at least 10 minutes. Every single day! Right now she’s on her second chat with yet another coworker. She’s been getting paid for 15 minutes and hasn’t even sat down at her desk yet. Another coworker in my department who is salary gets here about 10 minutes late every day. Is this a generational thing (my coworkers are all in their 20s and 30s) or just a sign of the times? Yes, I realize the irony of me posting this while on the clock. ![:lol](//storage.proboards.com/6819125/images/ootSdPWOeOobaJZc0kIU.gif)
|
|
|
Post by Tpatt100 on Feb 26, 2019 9:42:55 GMT -5
Quit watching me......
|
|
|
Post by Sprockey on Feb 26, 2019 10:00:01 GMT -5
I am salary which means I get paid for the work I do, not the time it takes for me to do it. I goof off here, leave early, work from home... and still get my work done. On the flip I take early meetings from home or stay late when I have deadlines to meet. And I am not in my 20s, 30s or 40s ![:lol](//storage.proboards.com/6819125/images/ootSdPWOeOobaJZc0kIU.gif) Once they settle in are they productive?
|
|
|
Work Ethic
Feb 26, 2019 10:19:33 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Peachy on Feb 26, 2019 10:19:33 GMT -5
No ![:lol](//storage.proboards.com/6819125/images/ootSdPWOeOobaJZc0kIU.gif) I can hear them chatting about going out drinking last night.
|
|
|
Post by Wise Old Goat on Feb 26, 2019 15:47:22 GMT -5
I am salary which means I get paid for the work I do, not the time it takes for me to do it. I goof off here, leave early, work from home... and still get my work done. On the flip I take early meetings from home or stay late when I have deadlines to meet. And I am not in my 20s, 30s or 40s ![:lol](//storage.proboards.com/6819125/images/ootSdPWOeOobaJZc0kIU.gif) Once they settle in are they productive? I'm curious about the "work I do not the time it takes for me to do it" part. I'm the only non-salaried employee amongst the office staff (I'm also the only part time employee). Those salaried employees are paid to be at work for 35 hours (40 hour work with the unpaid hourly lunch breaks). Some of those people don't appear to have the workload to fill 35 hours - but they are expected to be there.
|
|
|
Post by Sprockey on Feb 26, 2019 15:57:09 GMT -5
I get paid to do XYZ
I could do XYZ in 20 mins or I could do it in 40 hrs. I don't get paid for my time.
As long as I produce XYZ then I have done my job (what I am getting paid to do)
|
|
|
Post by realcranky on Feb 26, 2019 16:01:39 GMT -5
I think that a lot of people have asked themselves “What is work doing for me?” And finding that the answer is “Not much.”
|
|
mare
Full Member
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png)
Posts: 2,517
|
Post by mare on Feb 26, 2019 16:11:29 GMT -5
I get paid to do XYZ I could do XYZ in 20 mins or I could do it in 40 hrs. I don't get paid for my time. As long as I produce XYZ then I have done my job (what I am getting paid to do) Are you paid if you don't do anything in a day? I guess I don't understand how salaried equates to being paid per job. To me, paid per job is a contract position with no benefits and no set work hours.
|
|
emmjay
Full Member
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png)
Posts: 1,734
|
Work Ethic
Feb 26, 2019 16:12:50 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by emmjay on Feb 26, 2019 16:12:50 GMT -5
I am salaried (35 hrs per week, 37 weeks per year) and don’t punch in/out, but I am required to be there at certain times during the day plus various evening and weekend events. I work at a school, though, and a lot of my work involves instruction and face-to-face interactions with students and teachers, so I can’t do any of that from home. I do sometimes stay late and come in on weekends, and I do various work stuff at home, but I still need to be there during my contracted hours. My husband has a corporate job and can do whatever he wants as long as things get done. He works from home a couple of days per week when he can. He also regularly works evenings and weekends, and spends a lot of time travelling for work outside of normal business hours, so they definitely get their money’s worth out of him. ![:lol](//storage.proboards.com/6819125/images/ootSdPWOeOobaJZc0kIU.gif)
|
|
mare
Full Member
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png)
Posts: 2,517
|
Post by mare on Feb 26, 2019 16:13:17 GMT -5
For example, I am a salaried employee. I am paid regardless if I have no jobs for the day. I don't get sent home unpaid, do you?
|
|
|
Post by coachgrrl on Feb 26, 2019 16:19:21 GMT -5
Nurse's get sent home all the time. If the census drops Per diem get sent home first then regular staff on a rotating basis. You can choose to take pto or go unpaid. Frankly it sucks and doesn't instill loyalty
|
|
emmjay
Full Member
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png)
Posts: 1,734
|
Work Ethic
Feb 26, 2019 16:39:00 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by emmjay on Feb 26, 2019 16:39:00 GMT -5
I know for my husband (who can do what he wants with his time as long as the work gets done), his job involves long-term project management and various deadlines that need to be met. He also manages a large team of people and is constantly in meetings. There would never be a situation where there were no jobs to do in a day, because it isn’t that kind of a role.
|
|
|
Post by alicechalmers on Feb 26, 2019 16:46:43 GMT -5
I think that a lot of people have asked themselves “What is work doing for me?” And finding that the answer is “Not much.” This is where I am, thus the "hell bent on growing this farm into a livelihood."
|
|
|
Post by Sprockey on Feb 26, 2019 17:01:20 GMT -5
Yes, I get paid for 40 hours even if I do nothing.
But I wouldn't have a job for long if I never did anything lol
|
|
mare
Full Member
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_darkblue.png)
Posts: 2,517
|
Post by mare on Feb 26, 2019 17:33:29 GMT -5
Yes, I get paid for 40 hours even if I do nothing. But I wouldn't have a job for long if I never did anything lol Right, none of us would. But what I'm getting at is that you are not paid by the job. You are salaried.
|
|
|
Post by Sprockey on Feb 26, 2019 17:41:55 GMT -5
Oh, I see. Right. I'm not paid "per job". My job isn't structured like that.
|
|
|
Post by Tpatt100 on Feb 26, 2019 17:42:02 GMT -5
I am salaried but as a contractor I have a required 40 work week so it doesn’t make any sense. The “salary” part is just in case they need me to work more they don’t have to pay me for it, it doesn’t go the other way though if I work less than 40x
I have projects and it’s up to me to do them if I screw off then I am still expected to get the project done so it’s on me to make sure I complete my work
|
|
|
Work Ethic
Feb 26, 2019 18:43:00 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Peachy on Feb 26, 2019 18:43:00 GMT -5
There’s an expectation of salaried employees at my company to put in 40-50 hours per week.
|
|
|
Post by maurinsky on Feb 26, 2019 19:34:49 GMT -5
Everyone in our office is salaried. We have a 35 hour work week, but I would wager most of us put in more time, overall. My office is a pretty productive group, not to say we don't chat and socialize, but we have a high level of credibility with our municipalities and I think we all feel compelled to keep that.
|
|
|
Post by Mamapalooza on Feb 27, 2019 15:42:33 GMT -5
We're all salaried with 35 hours a week, and get time and half OT above that. I don't see work ethic (or lack therefore) fall along generational lines in my office. Some older people leave the literal minute their 7 hour day is up, and a couple younger ones are here up to 12 hours some days, because their departments are understaffed and the work is on a deadline. Ambition runs the gamut, I think it's driven more by personality type than age.
I try to not notice what others are doing, because the slackers kind of piss me off when they spend an hour of their workday chatting about some TV show or their social life, then put in for OT. That's rare, but it does make me stabby when it's very obvious.
|
|