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Post by maurinsky on Jan 3, 2020 13:19:30 GMT -5
So now we're just assassinating people without notifying Congress.
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Post by Wise Old Goat on Jan 3, 2020 14:06:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it's that unusual is it? I mean Obama was kind of OTT with drone strikes and I'm not sure if congress was notified for every one of those either - including a US citizen who had no trial or conviction which should have been a huge deal but didn't really seem to be. This one is obviously a huge deal as well because it was a military official and not some random guy - but I think the precedent was set long ago.
It will be interesting to see if the world will have Trump's back on this one.
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Post by maurinsky on Jan 3, 2020 15:11:35 GMT -5
maybe you're right and I'm just very very worried about what's going to happen next because he does not care about anything but himself.
(Although Obama's actions were part of an already authorized and started by the previous administration war, and what Trump did is not)
War war war. It makes too much money to ever end it!
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Post by jen on Jan 3, 2020 16:21:22 GMT -5
It’s one thing to take out individuals and another to take out the second in command of a sovereign nation without provocation. Please correct me if I’m mistaken in the situation. I’ve not been able to bear too much attention.
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Post by Tpatt100 on Jan 3, 2020 16:29:04 GMT -5
From what I have read and if I am understanding it correctly the general was the head of a group that’s been organizing conflicts in other countries and his units were providing bombs to Iraqi insurgents that were used against Americans in Iraq.
I can support this but Trump can not explain how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich let alone explain to the American public as to why this happened so it will probably just become a big mess anyways.
Iran is supposedly behind organizing protests in Iraq.
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Post by stellarfeller on Jan 3, 2020 16:40:48 GMT -5
Also, his group supported the Russian and Assad governments’ actions in Syria.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Jan 5, 2020 11:25:29 GMT -5
The guy we killed was a very bad guy. No tears shed for him there. He was directly responsible for a lot of American deaths. That being said - no one will understand that coz “Trump”. It doesn’t matter any more if what he does is a good thing or a bad thing. It will be seen as solely self-serving by those who dislike him. And that feeling is well deserved due to his history. Lots of presidents have ordered strikes on bad guys.
I worry most about adding additional instability to an unstable region. But Iran was happening eventually. It just seems like eventually is sooner than expected.
Apparently all the important wars are fought on Twitter now anyhow...
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Post by emmjay on Jan 5, 2020 11:58:24 GMT -5
I am not sorry the guy is dead, but Trump is a reckless imbecile and is not a trustworthy commander-in-chief. I mean, Trump is now threatening to go after Iranian cultural sites. He is a POS.
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Post by Sprockey on Jan 5, 2020 13:58:36 GMT -5
Well "coz Trump " is a perfectly legitimate concern.
I'm not sorry the guy is dead but the stable genius who altered a weather map with a sharpie and got officials to swear to it cannot be trusted to handle such a complex situation.
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Post by Wise Old Goat on Jan 5, 2020 15:37:00 GMT -5
It’s one thing to take out individuals and another to take out the second in command of a sovereign nation without provocation. Please correct me if I’m mistaken in the situation. I’ve not been able to bear too much attention. Oh I agree that it was 100% a bad idea and reckless, but I think that it wasn't without precedent. I mean even the killing of Bin Laden is kind of problematic because they invaded a sovereign allied nation to do so. Regardless of whether Bin Laden or this new guy's death were warranted both act as an indicator that America has long felt it had the right go to rogue.
But Trump is not Obama and I don't think he has the wherewithal or the will to smooth this over. I heard Iran is no longer going to voluntarily the nuclear ban that was imposed on them so that's fun.
I don't think this will lead to WWIII because I honestly can't see the world having Trump's back on this one based on how much he has done to alienate everyone. Unless Iran truly goes nuculear of course.
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Post by Tpatt100 on Jan 6, 2020 9:42:34 GMT -5
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Post by alicechalmers on Jan 6, 2020 10:05:59 GMT -5
She’ll never get anywhere in the presidential race, but this is exactly why I like Tulsi Gabbard. It’s not about whether he was a good or bad guy, but about the long-term implications of the U.S. acting aggressively AGAIN.
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Post by stellarfeller on Jan 7, 2020 19:39:09 GMT -5
And now Iran has fired short-range missiles at a military base in Iraq where American personnel are situated.
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