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Post by maurinsky on Jul 17, 2020 14:03:10 GMT -5
The Trump administration is an abject failure, a shameful event in American history, and every single GOP Senator who absolved him after his impeachment trial should never be elected to office again.
1. Has banned the CDC from sharing data about C19 2. Has banned CDC from participating in discussions about how to safely re-open schools 3. Violates the Hatch Act on a daily basis 4. Has been funneling public funds to his golf courses/properties 5. His Acting DHS is currently rounding up people in Portland OR against the will of the Governor - this is illegal
There really is not a conservative party in this country.
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Post by justthinking on Jul 17, 2020 14:36:53 GMT -5
I totally agree.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 17, 2020 16:35:20 GMT -5
only the tip of the iceberg
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Post by coachgrrl on Jul 17, 2020 17:57:21 GMT -5
I fully expect several book/movies about his presidency where we all are shocked that it was even worse than expected. 😡
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Post by justthinking on Jul 17, 2020 17:58:38 GMT -5
I fully expect several book/movies about his presidency where we all are shocked that it was even worse than expected. 😡 Those will be the movies our grandkids watch for history class at school and say, "How did they ever let that happen?!"
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Post by villanelle on Jul 17, 2020 18:15:03 GMT -5
I fully expect several book/movies about his presidency where we all are shocked that it was even worse than expected. 😡 Those will be the movies our grandkids watch for history class at school and say, "How did they ever let that happen?!" And that shame will be on nearly every Republican member of Congress. *They* were the check and the balance. *They* were there to keep him in check and to protect the constitution. History will treat them unkindly, deservedly so. This is their shame as much as his. More, in some ways I think.
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Post by justthinking on Jul 17, 2020 18:22:51 GMT -5
Those will be the movies our grandkids watch for history class at school and say, "How did they ever let that happen?!" And that shame will be on nearly every Republican member of Congress. *They* were the check and the balance. *They* were there to keep him in check and to protect the constitution. History will treat them unkindly, deservedly so. This is their shame as much as his. More, in some ways I think. I hope people remember that when Paul Ryan runs for president, because you know he will.
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Post by marianparoo on Jul 18, 2020 5:54:29 GMT -5
You don't say.
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Post by Inky on Jul 20, 2020 18:39:48 GMT -5
I still say Trump will be re-elected. It's not what I want to happen, and dh says no way in hell....but nothing yet has shown me he won't be re-elected.
You'd think with all the screw-ups it would change things, but those who believe him will vote for him. And they'll all vote unfortunately. I can only hope that covid strikes along party lines I guess.
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Post by justthinking on Jul 20, 2020 19:21:17 GMT -5
I still say Trump will be re-elected. It's not what I want to happen, and dh says no way in hell....but nothing yet has shown me he won't be re-elected. You'd think with all the screw-ups it would change things, but those who believe him will vote for him. And they'll all vote unfortunately. I can only hope that covid strikes along party lines I guess. I am really afraid you might be correct. I don't know if our democracy can survive until the end of his first term, and I'm very certain it won't survive two terms.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Jul 20, 2020 21:04:26 GMT -5
I can only hope that covid strikes along party lines I guess. Really?
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Post by maurinsky on Jul 21, 2020 10:12:39 GMT -5
GOF, not sure if you're being critical or not, but you've stated a similar opinion multiple times - that you think we just need to open everything up and let the deaths fall where they may.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 21, 2020 10:31:06 GMT -5
I think everyone who calls it a hoax or a "scamdemic" and are out there actively promoting not using masks should be the ones who get sick. It just so happens that that's coming mostly from those on the right... so 🤷♀️
Play stupid games, win the stupid prizes.
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Jul 21, 2020 10:33:30 GMT -5
GOF, not sure if you're being critical or not, but you've stated a similar opinion multiple times - that you think we just need to open everything up and let the deaths fall where they may. I don’t think I’ve ever said that I feel that one particular political party should die an untimely death. Nor have I said I wish anyone to die due to their political beliefs, or any reason. I tend to not wish sickness and death on others even if they disagree with me - mostly because that’s really fucked up. And awfully Machiavellian... my views are much more John Stuart Mill than Machiavelli....
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Jul 21, 2020 10:34:05 GMT -5
I think everyone who calls it a hoax or a "scamdemic" and are out there actively promoting not using masks should be the ones who get sick. It just so happens that that's coming mostly from those on the right... so 🤷♀️ Play stupid games, win the stupid prizes. People who don’t wear masks probably will be the ones that get sick... coz they’re not wearing a mask...
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Post by justthinking on Jul 21, 2020 10:44:15 GMT -5
I think everyone who calls it a hoax or a "scamdemic" and are out there actively promoting not using masks should be the ones who get sick. It just so happens that that's coming mostly from those on the right... so 🤷♀️ Play stupid games, win the stupid prizes. There are test sites selling crocheted mesh masks with 1-inch holes as "protest masks" because the type of mask isn't specified in mask requirements. Petty, childish, and ignorant.
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Post by Sprockey on Jul 21, 2020 10:58:41 GMT -5
I think everyone who calls it a hoax or a "scamdemic" and are out there actively promoting not using masks should be the ones who get sick. It just so happens that that's coming mostly from those on the right... so 🤷♀️ Play stupid games, win the stupid prizes. People who don’t wear masks probably will be the ones that get sick... coz they’re not wearing a mask... Right. And those are mostly people on the right protesting their freedumbs.
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Post by nansel on Jul 21, 2020 11:56:35 GMT -5
People who don’t wear masks probably will be the ones that get sick... coz they’re not wearing a mask... What we’re being told by health authorities is that non-medical masks protect other people rather than the person wearing them So not wearing one when asked is a big old “I don’t care if you die”.
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Post by krisa on Jul 21, 2020 12:22:53 GMT -5
When all of this started, Childrens Hospital set aside an entire wing to handle Covid cases. It sat empty until yesterday. DH got the call last night that they were activating the room. 15 kids came in yesterday that needed to be admitted for Covid.
I wonder if having it start to affect kids will get the naysayers to start wearing a mask?
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Jul 21, 2020 12:32:03 GMT -5
People who don’t wear masks probably will be the ones that get sick... coz they’re not wearing a mask... What we’re being told by health authorities is that non-medical masks protect other people rather than the person wearing them So not wearing one when asked is a big old “I don’t care if you die”. I have no problem with masks at all. I think people who don’t wear them are either 1. Stupid (more likely) or 2. Suffering from PTSD (Rape victim). I’m not sure why you feel I’m anti mask. I literally wear 2 masks and a respirator all day at work. I would never say that I hope people who don’t agree with me politically die. Ever. I think that’s a gross statement. I wasn’t the one who made that statement. I was suprised that someone did because.. I think I thats an awful thing to say.. I’m no fan of Trump or Trumpers, but I certainly don’t wish disease and death on them or anyone else.
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