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Post by Sprockey on Nov 4, 2020 20:39:54 GMT -5
feeling much better today!
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Post by justthinking on Nov 4, 2020 20:42:00 GMT -5
feeling much better today! Will feel better after January 20th. A bit worried the turtle and his compatriots will just be blockaders for the next two years though. Signed up to help with the senate race in WI in 2022. |
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Post by marianparoo on Nov 5, 2020 7:49:25 GMT -5
feeling much better today! Will feel better after January 20th. A bit worried the turtle and his compatriots will just be blockaders for the next two years though. Signed up to help with the senate race in WI in 2022. Yes on all counts |
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Post by villanelle on Nov 5, 2020 11:51:20 GMT -5
I'm hopeful, but definitely not relaxed or especially confident.
I do think that the legal strategy as it appears to be shaping up--throw it at the wall and see what sticks--may come back to bite him in the ass. It's hard to say in one place that counting should stop, while insisting in another that they keep counting.
I wish I had more confidence in SCOTUS these days to do the right thing.
And I'm also afraid of a scorched-earth approach by Trump for the next few months as he takes his sour grapes at losing (if...; please, please, please!)on the American people.
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Post by Inky on Nov 5, 2020 15:51:27 GMT -5
I'm hopeful, but definitely not relaxed or especially confident. I do think that the legal strategy as it appears to be shaping up--throw it at the wall and see what sticks--may come back to bite him in the ass. It's hard to say in one place that counting should stop, while insisting in another that they keep counting. I wish I had more confidence in SCOTUS these days to do the right thing. And I'm also afraid of a scorched-earth approach by Trump for the next few months as he takes his sour grapes at losing (if...; please, please, please!)on the American people. He may not do the scorched earth IF he's thinking of another shot at it in 2024, which is what is being said now. That might not be a wise move. (Not that I'm implying the man has a wise bone in his body) |
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Nov 5, 2020 16:17:21 GMT -5
A Biden win by a razor thin margin with (stupid) ideas flying around about stolen elections may be a good thing for mid term elections for republicans. Their base will be super-upset, fired up to vote in midterms to keep the senate..
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Post by villanelle on Nov 5, 2020 19:18:08 GMT -5
I feel like the title of this thread needs to be changed. Election DayS 2020, or Election WEEK 2020, maybe.
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Post by Peachy on Nov 5, 2020 19:30:50 GMT -5
I was watching MSNBC earlier. I thoroughly enjoyed watching them cut off Trump's speech. He immediately started talking about illegal votes, and they were having NONE of it!
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Post by puppylove on Nov 5, 2020 20:12:04 GMT -5
I tried to find the press conference online only to realize the networks cut away. There are no more fucks to be given (I’m looking at you, Anderson Cooper).
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Post by villanelle on Nov 5, 2020 20:22:22 GMT -5
The delusion rantings of a madman aren't news. That he rants delusionally is, but the actual content of the ranting? Not news, and I applaud the news for being responsible and not giving air time to complete falsehoods. It's like airing a speech from a holocaust denier.
I read on FB that one of his kids posted that he will go to war over this election. That's some scary, scary shit.
He wants to make us all afraid enough that we give up--that we think just conceding and handing him the presidency is the smoother course of action and therefore should be the one we take. He's a bully who makes a public threat to steal the lunch money of any kid who dares play on his favorite slide on the playground, hoping the threat will be enough to cause everyone to just cede the slide to him and accept that he owns it.
He will tear us apart if it furthers his aims.
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Post by justthinking on Nov 5, 2020 20:42:38 GMT -5
The delusion rantings of a madman aren't news. That he rants delusionally is, but the actual content of the ranting? Not news, and I applaud the news for being responsible and not giving air time to complete falsehoods. It's like airing a speech from a holocaust denier. I read on FB that one of his kids posted that he will go to war over this election. That's some scary, scary shit. He wants to make us all afraid enough that we give up--that we think just conceding and handing him the presidency is the smoother course of action and therefore should be the one we take. He's a bully who makes a public threat to steal the lunch money of any kid who dares play on his favorite slide on the playground, hoping the threat will be enough to cause everyone to just cede the slide to him and accept that he owns it. He will tear us apart if it furthers his aims. I am so glad his bullying blustering rants are not being taken seriously this time. He has gotten away with that all his life and it must be a huge shock to him to have it not work. His son is trying to follow his dad's lead, but that's too much hyperbole. Go to war? Really? |
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Post by GiftOfFlavor on Nov 5, 2020 21:28:12 GMT -5
It’s like a child having a tantrum in a store. The more attention you give the worse it gets. Walk away and they shut the fuck up.. 🤷♀️
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Post by justthinking on Nov 5, 2020 22:27:24 GMT -5
We have quite possibly the stupidest election system in the history of election systems. It should not be a nail biter when one candidate is ahead by 4 million votes.
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Post by katy on Nov 6, 2020 7:25:13 GMT -5
I have had CNN on pretty much non-stop (CNN international is the most reliable stream and is also a US cable news channel on our telly.) I slept for three nights with it streaming on my laptop next to my head, as I wake up a lot in the night, anyway and it was convenient to wake up to updates. I even streamed it on my phone the last day the gym was open before we went back into lockdown.
Once PA flips I think I'll be able to look away for longer stretches and just get updates when I wake up in the morning. But for now I am glued!
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Post by maurinsky on Nov 6, 2020 8:33:01 GMT -5
It shouldn't have taken the media this long to not give oxygen to his lies.
Something we have to reckon with in this country is that right wing media has created a cult following that is immune to factual information that doesn't fit their narrative. I was watching Seduced about the Nxium cult on Starz, and it just reminded me so much of how Fox and OANN and Limbaugh and Jones and Hannity operate. They create an alternative narrative, keep their followers ramped up on outrage over things that are not accurate, and the followers start abandoning their own critical thinking skills.
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Post by stellarfeller on Nov 6, 2020 9:15:40 GMT -5
At least I finally know how to pronounce Hoda Kotb’s last name 😄
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Post by fannybananny on Nov 6, 2020 9:22:35 GMT -5
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus? It's real? No backsies?  |
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Post by villanelle on Nov 6, 2020 20:21:14 GMT -5
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus? It's real? No backsies? As much as I love the idea, saying that Biden has been elected isn't accurate. If the states haven't called it, it's not official. (Even then, technically he hasn't been elected until the electoral college electors cast their vote.) I'm not just being pedantic. I think the left need to be careful about making false claims, even if they aren't wild fallacies. It simply adds credence to claims they are trying to get away with something, and it hurts the credibility of their accusations that Trump is full of lies if they are saying things that aren't true as well. |
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Post by justthinking on Nov 6, 2020 20:32:38 GMT -5
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus? It's real? No backsies? As much as I love the idea, saying that Biden has been elected isn't accurate. If the states haven't called it, it's not official. (Even then, technically he hasn't been elected until the electoral college electors cast their vote.) I'm not just being pedantic. I think the left need to be careful about making false claims, even if they aren't wild fallacies. It simply adds credence to claims they are trying to get away with something, and it hurts the credibility of their accusations that Trump is full of lies if they are saying things that aren't true as well. The funny thing is the outlet which made this (associated with FiveThirtyEight), is NOT counting Arizona's electoral votes, but Fox News IS counting them. Fox can't got ahead and call any more states for Biden because if they do they either have to call the whole race or walk back their call of Arizona. FiveThirtyEight was pretty careful not to call that until the votes left were largely from democratic districts. I watched their blog for two days and they were very careful. |
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Post by justthinking on Nov 7, 2020 11:39:34 GMT -5
Finally...Biden!
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