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Post by emmjay on Nov 24, 2020 3:57:41 GMT -5
I wonder if this cheaper one will even be an option, since the US decided not to join the Covax coalition. I am not sure how that works. I saw this article as well, which should be reassuring in terms of safety: www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/life-may-back-normal-next-summer-one-worlds-leading-vaccine/ From Richard Hatchett, who knows as much or more about the vaccine development efforts than probably anyone on the planet: “Dr Hatchett also told the online event [...] that the speed at which the vaccines had been developed - 300 days versus the usual timeline of 10 years - did not mean that safety had been compromised. Dr Hatchett said that the manufacturing and clinical trial timelines had been “squeezed” and the researchers had managed to recruit a huge number of people very quickly. “You have to look at a certain number of cases of the disease before you look at results. Of course, we’re in the middle of a pandemic where disease rates are very high and these cases have accumulated very rapidly. “Everything that would be done to ensure safety has been done with these vaccines - it’s just happened in a very compressed timeframe,” he said.”
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Post by momof3b1g on Dec 22, 2020 19:57:57 GMT -5
At our staff meeting today it was reiterated that (paraphrase mine), our district will only close the school if teachers are dropping like flies and we've run through all our subs or the government shuts us down. Also our health is their biggest priority and they are paying extra for priority testing so we only have to miss 1-2 days of school if we get tested so they don't have to pay for so many subs. All of which is to say I'm sure the next thing will be, "Your health is our biggest priority so we are going to require staff get this vaccine so we can keep school open for the families when they return from their trips to Disney." Our district is very similar and I wouldn't be surprised if they require us to have the vaccine.
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Post by Inky on Dec 22, 2020 20:07:14 GMT -5
And now we have these new stains of Covid in the UK. It sounds like the vaccine may cover it as well. Who knows. DD will be getting the vaccine soon but dh says he's not going to.
I would not be getting any vaccine from Russia or china though.
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Post by niccikatie on Dec 22, 2020 23:55:24 GMT -5
DH got his this morning. He's an inpatient dialysis nurse. A little arm soreness but no other issues so far. I will get it when it is my turn.
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Post by marianparoo on Dec 23, 2020 7:07:12 GMT -5
My wife works for the NHS, so she isn't going to furloughed without pay for the coming lockdown, but she won't get the vax because she is a temp, and they are only giving it to permanent workers. Some animals are more equal than others. >
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Post by jen on Dec 23, 2020 7:19:43 GMT -5
I’m in line as a healthcare provider. I will get mine as soon as they let me. I’m balancing my need to help treat trauma the way I feel most effective (in person EMDR) and my anxiety about doing so. My office is giant with two big windows and a medical grade air purifier plus masks but that’s a lot of talking and a lot of potential droplets.
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Post by emmjay on Dec 23, 2020 7:27:43 GMT -5
There is talk here of teachers being prioritised in the next grouping, once they vaccinate high risk people and everyone over 50. They should be, considering how insistent Boris is about keeping schools open. Anyway, I would qualify either because of that or because I will be in the next age grouping anyway. I read somewhere that if they approve the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine next week (as expected), the goal is to get everyone over the age of 16 in the UK vaccinated by March/April. Luckily that vaccine is being manufactured here so it won’t be affected by any potential Brexit disruptions.
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Post by RobinAnn on Dec 23, 2020 10:43:24 GMT -5
We were shocked to find out that my husband is able to get his vaccine this week (he has an appointment today, after work). He's the front desk/PBX operator at our local hospital. He does come in contact with nearly 300 "unknowns" a day (and of course has to chastise many to wear their masks correctly). At least between the two of us, we'll be half safe. At least he won't bring it home with him to me nor will I infect him if I happen to contract it from outside.
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Post by justthinking on Dec 23, 2020 10:46:49 GMT -5
We were shocked to find out that my husband is able to get his vaccine this week (he has an appointment today, after work). He's the front desk/PBX operator at our local hospital. He does come in contact with nearly 300 "unknowns" a day (and of course has to chastise many to wear their masks correctly). At least between the two of us, we'll be half safe. At least he won't bring it home with him to me nor will I infect him if I happen to contract is from outside. The data is still out as to whether or not people who have received the vaccine can transmit covid to others. There is a chance that, while the vaccine is very effective at preventing severe cases of covid in those who have received the vaccine, those people would still be able to carry the virus to others if they are exposed. Long way of saying don't let your guar.d down until herd immunity has been reached.
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Post by RN Mom on Dec 23, 2020 10:50:17 GMT -5
I got mine Monday and have spent the last three afternoons vaccinating people in my hospital system. I’m not at all concerned about the safety, and my only real concern is long term efficacy. But, I get a flu shot every year and would be willing to get this one too.
For those that have questions: my arm hurts a bit, pretty comparable to a tetanus shot, but I otherwise feel fine. I did wake up with a headache yesterday, but I left him at home sleeping.
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Post by Peachy on Dec 23, 2020 10:54:01 GMT -5
I did wake up with a headache yesterday, but I left him at home sleeping. LMAO!
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Post by RobinAnn on Dec 23, 2020 11:09:56 GMT -5
We were shocked to find out that my husband is able to get his vaccine this week (he has an appointment today, after work). He's the front desk/PBX operator at our local hospital. He does come in contact with nearly 300 "unknowns" a day (and of course has to chastise many to wear their masks correctly). At least between the two of us, we'll be half safe. At least he won't bring it home with him to me nor will I infect him if I happen to contract is from outside. The data is still out as to whether or not people who have received the vaccine can transmit covid to others. There is a chance that, while the vaccine is very effective at preventing severe cases of covid in those who have received the vaccine, those people would still be able to carry the virus to others if they are exposed. Long way of saying don't let your guar.d down until herd immunity has been reached. I don't have much guard up with regard to my husband, so there will probably be no change there. I'll make sure he keeps up his post-work hygeine.
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Post by shannont on Dec 23, 2020 11:54:38 GMT -5
There is talk here of teachers being prioritised in the next grouping, once they vaccinate high risk people and everyone over 50. They should be, considering how insistent Boris is about keeping schools open. Anyway, I would qualify either because of that or because I will be in the next age grouping anyway. I read somewhere that if they approve the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine next week (as expected), the goal is to get everyone over the age of 16 in the UK vaccinated by March/April. Luckily that vaccine is being manufactured here so it won’t be affected by any potential Brexit disruptions. So, I'm challenging prioritizing teachers. While I get it and understand they do need to be vaccinated early on, the risk is not as great as originally thought. I think the grocery store workers and other "essential" personnel that we have required to work with the public, face to face, throughout the pandemic, should be prioritized over teachers. Although not ideal, teachers can work remotely. We've called grocery store clerks "essential" all this time and now, they aren't top of the list and are being deprioritized, and I have a real problem with that.
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Post by emmjay on Dec 23, 2020 12:08:40 GMT -5
There is talk here of teachers being prioritised in the next grouping, once they vaccinate high risk people and everyone over 50. They should be, considering how insistent Boris is about keeping schools open. Anyway, I would qualify either because of that or because I will be in the next age grouping anyway. I read somewhere that if they approve the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine next week (as expected), the goal is to get everyone over the age of 16 in the UK vaccinated by March/April. Luckily that vaccine is being manufactured here so it won’t be affected by any potential Brexit disruptions. So, I'm challenging prioritizing teachers. While I get it and understand they do need to be vaccinated early on, the risk is not as great as originally thought. I think the grocery store workers and other "essential" personnel that we have required to work with the public, face to face, throughout the pandemic, should be prioritized over teachers. Although not ideal, teachers can work remotely. We've called grocery store clerks "essential" all this time and now, they aren't top of the list and are being deprioritized, and I have a real problem with that. I am in the UK and teachers are required to work in person. Also the group with the highest numbers of cases here is secondary school aged kids, and they are driving the numbers up everywhere. We had a “lockdown” in Nov that didn’t really make a difference, because schools had to stay open. If the government is going to insist that schools stay open to essentially provide daycare for working parents, teachers should get the vaccine pretty early on. If they let schools go remote again, I’m fine with waiting.
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Post by justthinking on Dec 23, 2020 12:12:10 GMT -5
There is talk here of teachers being prioritised in the next grouping, once they vaccinate high risk people and everyone over 50. They should be, considering how insistent Boris is about keeping schools open. Anyway, I would qualify either because of that or because I will be in the next age grouping anyway. I read somewhere that if they approve the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine next week (as expected), the goal is to get everyone over the age of 16 in the UK vaccinated by March/April. Luckily that vaccine is being manufactured here so it won’t be affected by any potential Brexit disruptions. So, I'm challenging prioritizing teachers. While I get it and understand they do need to be vaccinated early on, the risk is not as great as originally thought. I think the grocery store workers and other "essential" personnel that we have required to work with the public, face to face, throughout the pandemic, should be prioritized over teachers. Although not ideal, teachers can work remotely. We've called grocery store clerks "essential" all this time and now, they aren't top of the list and are being deprioritized, and I have a real problem with that. My friend's husband and teenager developed covid symptoms, so the whole family got tested. Turns out her 6yo and 9yo were also covid-positive, though neither one ever had any symptoms. Apparently a lot of younger kids never do develop symptoms, but they can still pass it on to their teachers. Many of the other essential workers count on elementary and preschool/daycare teachers to care for their children so they can go do their essential jobs. Many of us have been teaching in person this entire school year. My district's stated policy is to stay in person unless so many teachers get sick they no longer have enough subs to care for the kids. They have been emergency licensing parents with associate's degrees and a 2-hour sub class, so they will never run out of subs.
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Post by emmjay on Dec 23, 2020 12:26:58 GMT -5
I will add that in the UK, they are currently prioritising by age. The “first wave” of eligibility includes literally everyone in the country over the age of 50, as well as people who are high-risk due to medical conditions. That adds up to something like 40% of the entire population of the country, so teachers aren’t exactly jumping the queue. Age 50+ includes a significant number of grocery store workers (and teachers) already.
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Post by shaena on Dec 23, 2020 12:42:13 GMT -5
I think after frontline hospital people, age priority makes more sense. I think all of the essential worker shit has just bungled everything up as usual...
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Post by maurinsky on Dec 23, 2020 13:15:40 GMT -5
I expect I will get it sometime in mid to late 2021 or possibly 2022, depending on how the distribution and manufacturing process goes.
I would like to see health care workers first in line.
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Post by momof3b1g on Dec 23, 2020 13:44:43 GMT -5
So, I'm challenging prioritizing teachers. While I get it and understand they do need to be vaccinated early on, the risk is not as great as originally thought. I think the grocery store workers and other "essential" personnel that we have required to work with the public, face to face, throughout the pandemic, should be prioritized over teachers. Although not ideal, teachers can work remotely. We've called grocery store clerks "essential" all this time and now, they aren't top of the list and are being deprioritized, and I have a real problem with that. My friend's husband and teenager developed covid symptoms, so the whole family got tested. Turns out her 6yo and 9yo were also covid-positive, though neither one ever had any symptoms. Apparently a lot of younger kids never do develop symptoms, but they can still pass it on to their teachers. Many of the other essential workers count on elementary and preschool/daycare teachers to care for their children so they can go do their essential jobs. Many of us have been teaching in person this entire school year. My district's stated policy is to stay in person unless so many teachers get sick they no longer have enough subs to care for the kids. They have been emergency licensing parents with associate's degrees and a 2-hour sub class, so they will never run out of subs. There is a lot going on in schools that is not getting reported. Our district is a mix of face-to-face and virtual. About 75% are face-to-face at the school I work at. Grocery store employees aren't spending 6 hours a day with the same person/people in a closed room with iffy ventilation.
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Post by Inky on Dec 23, 2020 15:20:13 GMT -5
Stores do have the option of curbside pick up though.
We'll get our vaccine when approved to do so. DH would definitely be a priority, me? Not sure as my RA is under control now.
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