|
Post by villanelle on Nov 12, 2020 12:41:05 GMT -5
Let's talk about this vaccine. Are you concerned about its safety? Concerned enough to delay getting it once it is available to you?
For most of us, I suspect this is a question for next summer as it is still not ready and when it is I assume the first rounds will go to health care workers, first responders, etc. Once it is available to you will you be first in line, or handing out at the back of the line? Would you get it for your kids ASAP? DO you think it is fair and reasonable for schools to require it as a condition of enrollment, once it is readily available?
Within your country (because the international scramble is something I don't know anything about), how do you think they should decide who gets it first? Do you think requiring healthcare workers to get it (as they do with most vaccines) is fair and reasonable?
Do you have concerns about the safety of this, beyond any concerns you may have about vaccinations in general? Is that based strictly on the timeline and newness, or do you fear the political pressure, or other political factors, might have caused corner cutting?
How do you think you will move forward after you are vaccinated? Will you still mask in public? Still social-distance?
|
|
emmjay
Full Member
Posts: 1,734
|
Post by emmjay on Nov 12, 2020 12:59:50 GMT -5
In terms of safety I am fine with any vaccine endorsed by CEPI. The vaccines are being developed faster because they have more funding and resources, not because they are cutting corners on safety. I wouldn’t line up for one from China or Russia. And I think there needs to be an organized distribution plan both to countries and within countries, because if it goes by who pays first/most instead of being targeted, it will just drag the whole pandemic out longer. I am guessing for travel it will be like yellow fever, where you can’t enter countries without proof you have had the vaccine. For schools, I can see it being added to the list of required vaccines. Whether or not I continue wearing a mask will depend on how effective the vaccine is. I would prefer not to, because I hate working/teaching with a mask on!
|
|
|
Post by GiftOfFlavor on Nov 12, 2020 13:09:19 GMT -5
As a healthcare provider I will probably be offered a vaccine before the general population. To be honest I’d prefer to have a T-cell test first to determine if I already had Covid earlier this year. If I already have t-cell immunity I would not take a vaccine.
If I am not immune then I would really strongly consider whether I was comfortable taking a vaccine that had this quick of a development process. I am, generally, low risk for severe COVID if I did get sick.
Part of me feels like this is how “The Walking Dead” begins lol
|
|
|
Post by Mamapalooza on Nov 12, 2020 16:04:55 GMT -5
I'll be at the back of the line, as I'm not high risk so it doesn't feel it's urgent I get one.
It will be interesting to see what the gov't tries to do here in terms of schools. Vaccinations aren't required for public school enrollment, and the Canadian courts have backed that. If they make this one mandatory, they will likely make them all mandatory, plus whatever else they will develop in the future. If it comes down to it, I hope the courts will rely on existing case law and not change course.
I was reading that Tickmaster will require proof of a vaccine or a negative test result for entry into one of their events. I'm not surprised, that's to be expected to mitigate their liability, and they're a private company. I'm just not sure how far that will go - will that be required to go to the grocery store, or to work? Forcing anyone to have a vaccine is a little too dystopian for me, especially for something this unlikely to be fatal. It's the precedent that concerns me more so than this particular vaccine.
|
|
|
Post by Truffles on Nov 12, 2020 17:29:12 GMT -5
I would hope to be midway to the front of the line. Having had whooping cough, my lungs are not the same prior to it and I worry what COVID would do to me. I have situational asthma now (particulates from forest fires can compromise my breathing) and that puts me and my family at the front of the line for flu shots (which we’re getting later today).
|
|
|
Post by stellarfeller on Nov 12, 2020 17:34:04 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what the gov't tries to do here in terms of schools. Vaccinations aren't required for public school enrollment, and the Canadian courts have backed that. Interesting that they aren’t required in BC - they are in Ontario.
|
|
|
Post by Truffles on Nov 12, 2020 18:49:55 GMT -5
When we moved from AB to BC the public health nurse for the school district required the immunization records for all 3 kids. It may not be mandatory but it seemed like it was to me.
|
|
|
Post by mimi on Nov 12, 2020 19:17:49 GMT -5
I will be middle of the pack. I’m a little higher risk for COVID19 than some with my cancer, front line work & susceptibility to chest infections. I have had rashly type reactions to 4 antibiotics & a localized reaction to my last flu shot (in 2009) which caused a raised lump about 3 inches across & 1/2 inch high where the injection was & a red rash encircling my upper arm from the shoulder to the elbow.
I’ll get a vaccine if I have to but I am a little hesitant.
|
|
|
Post by katy on Nov 13, 2020 12:07:22 GMT -5
GIMME!
I'll be at the front of the (ordinary people) pack.
|
|
|
Post by coachgrrl on Nov 13, 2020 12:25:22 GMT -5
Working in a hospital, I should be in front of the line
I will gladly take it ASAP
|
|
|
Post by nansel on Nov 13, 2020 16:36:53 GMT -5
I’ll be in line when it’s offered to me. I’m no more worried about it than any other vaccine. And since I have never had more than the usual mild reactions to any other vaccines, I have few concerns.
Thanks to having had whooping cough years ago and been left with tetchy lungs, I will do what I can to protect myself.
|
|
|
Post by justthinking on Nov 13, 2020 17:05:33 GMT -5
The Pfizer one I'd probably do. The Russian one? Not a chance.
|
|
|
Post by Inky on Nov 13, 2020 20:00:14 GMT -5
I'd get it for sure. But, I'd want to see immunocompromised people, those with medical reasons, health care workers, emergency workers get it ahead of me if it came to that.
|
|
|
Post by alicechalmers on Nov 13, 2020 20:29:49 GMT -5
I will get it, and I will volunteer to help give it in vulnerable, underserved communities.
|
|
mare
Full Member
Posts: 2,517
|
Post by mare on Nov 13, 2020 21:20:17 GMT -5
I will likely get it. I'm not a priority person, so I will have plenty of time to see if those who get it first become zombies. I would very much like my elderly inlaws, mom and step-dad get the vaccine asap. My step-dad has emphysema and now diabetes.
|
|
|
Post by GiftOfFlavor on Nov 14, 2020 11:49:20 GMT -5
I will get it, and I will volunteer to help give it in vulnerable, underserved communities. I hope you get the chance. It has to be stored at -95 degrees and there isn’t enough dry ice on the planet for a good system of distribution. I have a feeling people will be flying to the vaccine, not the other way around. Big coastal cities will receive and the middle of the country will continue to be flown over.
|
|
|
Post by justthinking on Nov 14, 2020 12:06:02 GMT -5
I will get it, and I will volunteer to help give it in vulnerable, underserved communities. I hope you get the chance. It has to be stored at -95 degrees and there isn’t enough dry ice on the planet for a good system of distribution. I have a feeling people will be flying to the vaccine, not the other way around. Big coastal cities will receive and the middle of the country will continue to be flown over. Some states are being proactive at obtaining the necessary equipment. One article I read talked about North Dakota procuring multiple freezers capable of storage at that temperature, for example. I don't know if all the vaccines have that requirement. I've only read about it with the pfizer one. Other companies also seem to be close to solutions, and some of them may be creating vaccines with less supply chain intricacy.
|
|
|
Post by jen on Nov 14, 2020 12:50:18 GMT -5
I'm hoping therapist is Healthcare enough to get in early. I'll take it
|
|
|
Post by alicechalmers on Nov 14, 2020 13:25:42 GMT -5
I will get it, and I will volunteer to help give it in vulnerable, underserved communities. I hope you get the chance. It has to be stored at -95 degrees and there isn’t enough dry ice on the planet for a good system of distribution. I have a feeling people will be flying to the vaccine, not the other way around. Big coastal cities will receive and the middle of the country will continue to be flown over. That is exactly why I am willing to volunteer. I will be damned if my rural community gets left behind. If we can transport livestock semen we can transport vaccines.
|
|
|
Post by villanelle on Nov 14, 2020 20:41:59 GMT -5
I'd love to discuss/debate who should get access first.
For example, is it fair/reasonable to prioritize big cities, if (and that's a true if; I genuinely don't know!) if would help with herd immunity or prevent more infections to distribute it densely populated areas? Would that mean it's okay to send enough doses to NYC to innoculate maybe 90% of the population there if that means that no one in Alaska (the least densely popuulated US state) gets it? Should it go to older people first because they are at greater risk of death or serious complications? Or young or middle aged people because it's generally more difficult for them to stay home, and because if we can only save some people, maybe there's some awful triage math there. Perhaps to first responders and essential health care providers first, then to one of those options?
On a larger scale, theoretically, how should doses be distributed to countries. Perhaps just based on total % of the world's population? China has about 18.5% of the world's population so that get 18.5% of the doses, the US has about 4.3% so they get 4.3%, etc. Or based on the % of current cases as a % of the total number of cases in the world? (USA! USA! USA!) Whoever will pay the most? Some other metric?
|
|